Chat with Jason and new SWEDA-member Shane, begins with general discussion on what sorcery now means to Jason, post John De Ruiter, sorcery vs. surrender, interpreting daily events as dreams, alchemy of the psyche, more on mythic narratives, Hollywood narratives and synchromysticism, "The Secret Life of Movies," what makes the difference between the schizophrenic and the shaman, movies and art as products of the dreaming mind of the collective, the artistic process and parallels with alchemy and the SWEDA method, learning to become transmuters, the anima and the male ego, the truth of mother-bondage and the myth of the Gorgon, the two types of momma's boys, the *real* "occult conspiracy" that rules this world.

WARNING: this podcast may seriously disturb mother-bonded minds.