Chat between Jason and recent SWEDA recruit Sam, on the structure of SWEDA and the original ARGO-SWEDA merge, the formation of new subgroups, the impossibility of defining a process still underway, the myth of Jason & the Argonauts and of Aeolus the wind god, the Captain's job, being a still center and aligning the sail to the wind; the dark side of SWEDA, the pros and cons of becoming a "movement," SWEDA and Fight Club, the ominous parallels with a religious cult, the dangers of trying to change the world, the art of being in what you know, end-times management and SWEDA's function within the Alternate Perceptions Community; moving on to Sam's problem with spontaneity, his love life or lack thereof, the need for security vs. the desire for deeper connection, Jason's Moroccan odyssey, the annihilating potential of alchemical love, living for truth regardless of personal satisfaction, the SWEDA plant, tending an unknown seed, future creative ARGO projects.